On the other end of the phone line, a teaspoon is clinking against a glass. Hip-hop icon The GZA is ready to talk about his favorite game in the world: chess.
“Everything is based on mathematics,” he says. “Chess is calculation of movements. It’s just questions and answers, really. ‘The opening’ is defined by a response. White moves first, but depending on how black answers, it defines the opening.”
Despite his longstanding association and love for the game, GZA say he has little interest in playing chess professionally. He’s never been rated and has never entered in any actual tournaments. Unsurprisingly, GZA is a big fan of the smash chess-themed Netflix miniseries“I actually played chess with [Scott Frank] the director and writer of the show,” GZA says. “I think it’s a great show and it opens the idea of chess to many individuals who aren’t really thinking about [it].
“No disrespect to me,” he says. “But when I saw that I supposedly had the [second biggest vocabulary in hip-hop] and I think of my vocabulary, it’s not that extensive. It made me realize that rap was in this fucked-up position. I’m not calling myself dumb or anything, but it's not really about vocabulary. It’s about the way to structure your sentences and the way you put it together. You have to put things in the simplest terms in order to understand.
“Whatever I say in 16 bars, I should be able to say in eight bars," he says."It’s about being complex and being simple at the same time. Everything is based on mathematics. I could go on and on, I’m just talking shit right now.”“If you’re not talking shit, what fun are you having?” GZA says, laughing. “One can’t just be a serious motherfucker all the time. You don’t like jokes or wordplay on serious political issues? Come on.
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