'I was like, 'Will people still fuck with me? Or are they gonna be on some 'no homo' shit?' 🌈 The comedian and filmmaker JerrodCharmichael talks to asvpxrocky about masculinity, fatherhood, and fear for our Summer 2022 issue ⛅
’s moment, and it couldn’t feel more right. The comedian-turned-auteur was always known for finding humor in the tragic and discomforting, and those dueling obsessions have crystallized into a diptych with the back-to-back releases of, a dark comedy about two friends making a suicide pact, which Carmichael starred in and directed, and, his HBO special in which he stunned the industry by coming out as gay.
CARMICHAEL: Yes, bro. That’s why I needed to talk to you, because you are the homeboy I’m referring to in the special, and I still need you to think I’m cool! Your opinion means a lot. ROCKY: But that’s just close-minded people. You was like, “Yo listen, I know I’m a comedian, but I’m deadass serious about this.”ROCKY: When I saw the special—the earrings, nigga, the earrings; the pizzazz, the posture, the fade—I was like, “Look at my nigga!” Papa’s got a brand new bag!”ROCKY: I can’t express enough how happy I am for you, because I’m an advocate for being yourself. You know the real me. You know I’m a fucking goofball—we’ve chilled without no cameras. I’m myself.
CARMICHAEL: The film is about two angsty 30-year-old friends who decide to end their lives, and they make a pact to live one last day. It’s about them trying to tie up all their loose ends and fulfill their dreams before ending it. It’s about the freedom of that—what if you had one day to do every deep dark thing you’ve ever wanted? It was where I was in my life at the time. I felt stuck and I felt like I needed to make a leap.
ROCKY: You do that, though. What was that one special you did at the Comedy Store? You said, “I’m the type of man that needs a man around the house.”As funny as that is, it’s so true. So many people can relate to that in different ways. CARMICHAEL: But some niggas, the same niggas that I was talking about in the special, are going to be like, “Come on, man.”
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